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Within Temptation - The Unforgiving by Armin

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Ranked: Sep 10th, 2012
Average Rating: 2.79 / 5.00 from 74 votes
English Rock


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Rating: 3.13 / 5.00 from 29 votes
Ranking: #93 for 2012, #1891 overall
gungathonA map with a drain time of over 10 minutes., megacollabA map with 8 or more associated mappers., collabA map with two or more associated mappers., multi-songContains multiple songs within the audio., slidershapesUses a large variety of slider designs., storyboardContains a storyboard that enhances gameplay experience.

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Rating: 2.32 / 5.00 from 7 votes
Ranking: #409 for 2012
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Iron 4.71*
mapped by Armin and narakucrimson
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Rating: 3.14 / 5.00 from 5 votes
collabA map with two or more associated mappers., marathonA map with a drain time of over 5 minutes., storyboardContains a storyboard that enhances gameplay experience.

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A Demon's Fate 4.56*
mapped by Armin and Luvdic
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Rating: 2.83 / 5.00 from 5 votes
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Faster 4.06*
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Rating: 2.68 / 5.00 from 4 votes
gungathonA map with a drain time of over 10 minutes., storyboardContains a storyboard that enhances gameplay experience.

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Where Is The Edge 3.99*
mapped by Roddie
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Rating: 1.75 / 5.00 from 2 votes
storyboardContains a storyboard that enhances gameplay experience.

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Sinead 3.77*
mapped by narakucrimson
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Rating: 2.00 / 5.00 from 2 votes
storyboardContains a storyboard that enhances gameplay experience.

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Rating: 2.67 / 5.00 from 3 votes
collabA map with two or more associated mappers., storyboardContains a storyboard that enhances gameplay experience.

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Murder 3.55*
mapped by Vass_Bass
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Rating: 3.00 / 5.00 from 3 votes
storyboardContains a storyboard that enhances gameplay experience.

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Lost 3.53*
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Rating: 2.25 / 5.00 from 2 votes
storyboardContains a storyboard that enhances gameplay experience.

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Rating: 2.58 / 5.00 from 3 votes
marathonA map with a drain time of over 5 minutes., storyboardContains a storyboard that enhances gameplay experience.

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Rating: 1.79 / 5.00 from 3 votes
collabA map with two or more associated mappers., storyboardContains a storyboard that enhances gameplay experience.

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Rating: 2.30 / 5.00 from 6 votes
Ranking: #414 for 2012
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| contributors: Akiyama Mizuki, moonpoint, nijlpaard, Fsjallink

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Comments (8)

jesus

in the middle of the night is actually the worst map ever made

141

(This review is not about the quality of the map, which is pretty good, it is about my personal experience with it. We’re making rateyourmusic comments now baby get ready)

When -GN first fced The Unforgiving FL in 2021, he said that this map would teach you something about yourself and your head. While I didn’t understand exactly what he meant at the time, now I can confidently say that its one of the truest things I’ve heard about this marathon out of the hundreds of takes I’ve heard since.
This map isn’t “hard” in the conventional sense of it, or even the way that many marathons are. My other largest accomplishment, Umineko no Nako Koro ni Compilation HTFL, gets most of its difficulty from traditionally straining patterns and sections, which require a good memory and technical skill to perform, while also having a lesser requirement of good consistency to maintain playing capability for 40 minutes. Most songs in the compilation were very consistently mapped, sections were either difficult and required your focus to preserve combo or weren’t and served as break sections where you could zone out and let your muscle memory do the work for you. As a whole, the map felt strenuous to play but in a doable way, playing always felt mostly relaxed and I never got too upset at it.
This relaxed experience, however, can’t be said of The Unforgiving. This map gets almost all of its difficulty from 3 songs, 2 of which get made much easier with HT, leaving just In The Middle Of The Night (majorly the third break) as the only hard section in this 70 minute map. Almost every play I set in my month-long grind for this score was just me playing the first 14 minutes of the map to get to the only hard section, missing, and then restarting for 2-4 hours, which quickly became extremely draining and demotivating. And, even though the rest of the map was (comparatively) extremely easy, I couldn’t just hope to sightread it once I got passed. These other songs often contained random blind jumps or patterns that really didn’t flow in an easily rememberable way that I kept having to come back to over and over again, which made my practice days into long sessions of me playing patterns that I mostly already remembered just to make sure I could pull them out of my ass when I was on a run. Combined with the sheer amount of material I had to remember (almost 2x that of the longest map I had memorized previously), even memorizing, my favorite part of playing FL, became torturous. Pulling off the fc was equally hard, not only did the play take over two and a half hours to complete, but because the blind jumps are unfortunately pretty consistently peppered throughout every song of the map, which means there are no break songs where you can just chill, every song requires complete focus unless you want to risk missing 80 minutes in. Add to that the stress of playing A Demon’s Fate while knowing that messing up means that you’ll have to wait an absolute minimum of multiple hours for another attempt and you get some of the worst, longest held nerves I’ve felt while on an fc.
So, what does all this mean? What did I learn about myself from fcing The Unforgiving HTFL? I guess I’m just not cut out for these really long maps. My brain is great at holding a lot of information, but this much just kind of breaks it. I guess everyone has that type of limit, and mine is somewhere in between 40 and 70 minutes. Also, I need my break times. I can’t do this constant focus shit man, I want to listen to more Wheel of Time. Finally, not very partial to In The Middle Of The Night, I still say this is one of the best FL sets in the entire game, just not that diff. Play Iron instead.

Final Rating:
Mapping: 7/10 (9/10 if no In The Middle Of The Night)
Enjoyment Rating: This map literally made me suicidal for half a week/10
Would I recommend: If you’re starting out on FL, please play the individual songs, but stay away from the marathon, it is just not worth it. If you want a long map play parapara instead.

Bro wrote all that to flex their htfl scores

im not reading that shit bro

map long ah hell

The songs are pretty good but that map itself isnt too bad.

appreciate the review, nice play @141


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