I have to disagree with most of aeong's points here honestly.
For one, the very notion of a map's value is entirely dependent on the individual's tastes and priorities, even in a "critical sense". As such, I find it very dismissive and frankly a little insulting to argue that some aren't viewing maps through a critical lens just because what they value doesn't align with what yours.
I'm not going to pretend that farm maps aren't popular for certain reasons, and pp is something that really shouldn't have any place in mapping discussions (when it comes to map quality I mean) just as much as monetary value is also moot when talking about art in general.
But there is also many arguments supporting the notion that "farm" maps are popular for reasons other than the pp they award (a great example being the playcount of Bang Bang during its qualification easily topping many maps that have been ranked for months, despite not awarding any pp by that point).
Finally, I honestly just don't buy into the idea that farm maps are making new players go astray from the righteous path of pogchamping everytime Fanzhen or Kalibe uploads a map.
You can absolutely play and enjoy farm maps while still gushing over more esoteric stuff (something that's evident by looking at your most played maps, or mine for that matter).
Even for those that don't, I'm more of the opinion that if stripped from these "farm" or "simple" maps, most of them would just not play the game. "Good" maps are pushed into the limelight from time to time, this is more than enough to signal that if someone seeks more from this game, it can offer it.
This isn't a jab at the sentiment, I also really wish that cooler stuff could consistently get more attention with the playerbase at large.
I just don't agree with putting the blame on farm maps.
(also really good book rec, even if I don't agree with that's said in it I also advise giving it a try).
oh hey it's out to qualified limbo
jasontime tournament map no way
this is a pp map
cute ending
yeah
If we're getting all philosophical here,
I have to disagree with most of aeong's points here honestly.
For one, the very notion of a map's value is entirely dependent on the individual's tastes and priorities, even in a "critical sense". As such, I find it very dismissive and frankly a little insulting to argue that some aren't viewing maps through a critical lens just because what they value doesn't align with what yours.
I'm not going to pretend that farm maps aren't popular for certain reasons, and pp is something that really shouldn't have any place in mapping discussions (when it comes to map quality I mean) just as much as monetary value is also moot when talking about art in general.
But there is also many arguments supporting the notion that "farm" maps are popular for reasons other than the pp they award (a great example being the playcount of Bang Bang during its qualification easily topping many maps that have been ranked for months, despite not awarding any pp by that point).
Finally, I honestly just don't buy into the idea that farm maps are making new players go astray from the righteous path of pogchamping everytime Fanzhen or Kalibe uploads a map.
You can absolutely play and enjoy farm maps while still gushing over more esoteric stuff (something that's evident by looking at your most played maps, or mine for that matter).
Even for those that don't, I'm more of the opinion that if stripped from these "farm" or "simple" maps, most of them would just not play the game. "Good" maps are pushed into the limelight from time to time, this is more than enough to signal that if someone seeks more from this game, it can offer it.
This isn't a jab at the sentiment, I also really wish that cooler stuff could consistently get more attention with the playerbase at large.
I just don't agree with putting the blame on farm maps.
(also really good book rec, even if I don't agree with that's said in it I also advise giving it a try).
reconstructed ver
fuck yeah arthro
shitass
I go back and forth between thinking this is stupid and this is great
bring back ar9 240bpm
im people
these lyrics aren't too good though
mili mogs ur fave sorry
a million plays on this
tfw milr has the lowest rating on a map
homophone </3
in hindsight, why were omdb forums even needed when we have this map
watch gakkou gurashi!
Thank you fieryrage.
pleasebegoodpleasebegoodpleasebegoodpleasebegoodpleasebegoodpleasebegood
I always leave some medias I know I'll enjoy for my birthday so I can experience it with my bf, that way it's condensed fun :D
I'm saving my first playthrough of this map for my next birthday
this is not grandsenpai
the average mapper™