inverted emphasis

closing since this doesn't meet threshold

228: that makes sense. i think its still a distinctive Approach to emphasis that can be categorized but i can at least understand where ur coming from with taht

Aragon: yeah tru, im open to suggestions if anyone has them

interesting but you gotta figure out a better name bc inverted is both wrong and ambiguous rn

Mostly against this because this whole idea is basically a perception bias, i mean let's say there is something emphasised with passive rhythm, reduced spacing, etc, but that's the result of something else being emphasised with large spacing or active rhythm, it's just an alternative choice to even further emphasise some important stuff via alternating focus

emphasis faking...

"I dont get how 'contrasting angles' counts as inverted emphasis since what would the inverse 'normal' angles be" Fair honestly ill update this when its not 5:30am and im dyiong

"I just dont feel like it" Also Fair i gues

I just dont feel like it

I dont get how 'contrasting angles' counts as inverted emphasis since what would the inverse 'normal' angles be

can any nay-voter plz explain beyond memes sob emoji

"its still just an emphasis" yes that is in fact the point

Heyyyy

any emphasis fakers in chat

its still just an emphasis

its real

ok i get it now that's tea

i should say this proposal is in large part derived from the "russian-style" proposal; in there it was recommended to identify aspects of that particular style and make particular proposals for those instead of trying to blanket all of them into a single Thing

(this is what i think is a pretty prevalent element in what people would call a "russian-style" map, at the very least)

as for explanation it boils down to what is in the description more or less (even if this wording still sucks ass). its a form of emphasis that inverts the schema of emphasis established by earlier parts of the map (*typically* making high emphasis come from lower spacing and velocity/passive rhythm, but i feel as though if these elements are the expectations by the player from earlier within the map the vice versa applies as well)

"doesnt this kinda imply emphasis can only be done in an "upwards" sense" no, its just a subset of the broad scope of emphasis. this is just a design pattern i see relatively often enough to want to tag maps that are similar in that pattern usage

"isnt this that antijump thing" i have heard this term to describe this before i think, it feels very nondescript though : /

gonna need to have this explained to me cuz doesnt this kinda imply emphasis can only be done in an "upwards" sense which isnt the case at all... like whether u choose to emphasize a certain sound/moment with higher or lower relative spacing its still just "emphasis"... the same applies to rhythm, making it more sparse or dense in terms of active vs passive is still just emphasis for both

isnt this that antijump thing

ehhhhh "contrasting angles" is too vague help w wording this would be greatly appreciated !! :bangbang:

i am very aware the description is not great;;; i do know that this is a trend in certain mapping styles that i think would be valuable as its own descriptor, though

also i swear i've heard other words used for expressing this idea but i cant for the life of me remember them so i just used this to be as unambiguous as possible

a ton of kalibe (and kalibe-inspired) maps do this; e.g. /s/759524 (00:00:354 (1,2,1,2) - and 00:10:146 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - and 00:12:012 (6,7,1,2) - etc)