deathstreams

10 days w/o reaching the threshold, let's close for now and you can try again with this in a months time

I think it's fine for a so-called "outdated" term to come back into relevancy. Especially if it'd help further differentiate between stuff like /s/761026 /s/1440919 and current stamina + streams maps like P8107 or 10 Things I Hate About Ai no Sukima.

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Do you guys think a map like this deserves its own descriptor separate from "streams" and "stamina" because that's what I think this boils down to

i still think streams + stamina can substitute this just fine, and i find spascal's "outdated" argument compelling. i don't think note count would sway my opinion more in one particular direction either

this proposals been up for over 5 days now, so this is a last call for votes. it'll need at least 6 uninterrupted "yes" votes to pass the threshold which seems unlikely

There's a lot of no votes, but not a lot of reasons why. If the description was more specific to the count, would that make it acceptable?

@LowAccuracySS the burst descriptor actually does state typically <9 notes and streams typically >9 notes

(also hi omdb im back smiley face)

i think theres value in the distinction in the same way theres value in the distinction between burst and stream. the vagueness of the distinction is the same either way, just leave it to individual map voting

I'd like some more thoughts on this being a possible descriptor pls

the explanation given makes me say sure

btw i use the term long streams to describe death streams because they depend on stream length + bpm.

stamina + streams do not go hand in hand with deathstreams. example, bad for me is full of bursts and streams and you can argue that it destroys stamina, but there are no deathstreams. a map like skin thief has long bursts, but also streams with over 90+ notes that require pristine technique for good accuracy. while it does include stamina, i think its necessary to differentiate them because the long stream stamina vs. multi-burst/small stream stamina are different.

i think this needs specific condition (like +250 bpm with more than 30 notes sequence etc..) because this looks quite vague for now

Actually, maybe even more than 64, what are others' opinion on the count?

As a boomer I'm in favor of this """outdated""" term, because streams + stamina is not always a long uninterrupted stream. Maybe an agreed count of circles or measures as an estimated minimum should be added though, like the descriptor for bursts right now in its description, because I guess the biggest problem is that there was never an agreed minimum. First answer if you search it on google, for example, is a reddit post saying 32 notes, but the term would just get overused for that count. Many others and I never really associated the term with that count, I'd honestly double it.

I think it makes sense to differentiate between stamina and deathstreams since one doesn't automatically imply the other but I'm not sure the "higher bpm" is necessary tbh.

streams + stamina ithink

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cautious "yes" because i don't think the existing descriptors cover specifically the ultra-long, multi-bar, *unbroken* slugfests this tag is talking about

"stamina" seems to include anything long and tap-heavy (like o'er the flood), "streams" seems to include stuff in the 9-16 object range - P8107 is in both and it's definitely not a deathstream map. and i think this tag is aiming at maps like Ice Angel, Honesty, Painters, that one loved map with the 1025 circle stream etc

cautious because, i agree it's an old term and not something that gets used often anymore. but i think it's a somewhat useful categorization.

The description feels accurate btw so I see no issues there, the main issue is how we use it in a modern context

i think this is an outdated term unfortunately. deathstreams are now more commonplace than when this term first popped up- the more deathstreams popped up in maps the more they started to get called "steams" (the next step up from a burst). I think this would work if there were a more universally agreed upon length for a deathstream but i'm not seeing this term being thrown around enough for this to make sense as a descriptor atm.

we have stamina wihich i tink is basically the same thing .

kinda iffy since deathstreams is an outdated term

im not entirely sure if my description is accurate, please suggest some amendments :)

There are bursts, and there is streams, so there should be deathstreams.