@sponny hi! so the movie is from elio’s perspective who is the child being groomed as u mention. im assuming that youve seen the film so youre aware of how aesthetically pleasing the cinematography is and how romantic the relationship feels, but keeping in mind that this is elio’s perspective it’s all how his character sees it. we the audience can tell the relationship is unhealthy but he cant yet and it’s rooted in the coming-of-age narrative of it all. the unfortunate part of this narrative, and something i think is more common than you would think, is that this age gap and general experience of a younger boy with an older man is something a lot of young gay individuals have witnessed firsthand, myself included. you think you have it all under control and that everyone else including your best friends are crazy for thinking you couldnt handle a guy twice ur age and everything is all butterflies and a preconceived notion of love til it isnt and that’s what this film is about, just through the lens of the victim. and tbh i never thought ab the film like the way i just described til i got older. when i was younger (aka when i mapped it), i did think this movie was a romance movie and i ate it tf up as that but i never realized how messed up it really was bc i was going through the same thing myself. but as ive gotten older and reflected on my past self i realized how crazy it was that i was like 15 talking to men i should not have been speaking to. youre right that movie in concept and their relationship is weird and im not trying to defend that it isnt, but imo it’s considered high art bc of the nuance it has surrounding this specific experience (along with ofc the cinematography and actors). a normal audience should feel disgusted and an inattentive audience will likely just think the film is pretty, but there was another audience i feel i was part of who thought they understood exactly where elio came from and saw themselves in him. if they were younger, the praised elio and supported him, but if they were older they just felt sorry for him. anyway yea some food for thought glad u liked my map xoxo
i also think that this is one of sufjans weaker tracks
i didnt like the movie
he's right you know.......
@sponny hi! so the movie is from elio’s perspective who is the child being groomed as u mention. im assuming that youve seen the film so youre aware of how aesthetically pleasing the cinematography is and how romantic the relationship feels, but keeping in mind that this is elio’s perspective it’s all how his character sees it. we the audience can tell the relationship is unhealthy but he cant yet and it’s rooted in the coming-of-age narrative of it all. the unfortunate part of this narrative, and something i think is more common than you would think, is that this age gap and general experience of a younger boy with an older man is something a lot of young gay individuals have witnessed firsthand, myself included. you think you have it all under control and that everyone else including your best friends are crazy for thinking you couldnt handle a guy twice ur age and everything is all butterflies and a preconceived notion of love til it isnt and that’s what this film is about, just through the lens of the victim. and tbh i never thought ab the film like the way i just described til i got older. when i was younger (aka when i mapped it), i did think this movie was a romance movie and i ate it tf up as that but i never realized how messed up it really was bc i was going through the same thing myself. but as ive gotten older and reflected on my past self i realized how crazy it was that i was like 15 talking to men i should not have been speaking to. youre right that movie in concept and their relationship is weird and im not trying to defend that it isnt, but imo it’s considered high art bc of the nuance it has surrounding this specific experience (along with ofc the cinematography and actors). a normal audience should feel disgusted and an inattentive audience will likely just think the film is pretty, but there was another audience i feel i was part of who thought they understood exactly where elio came from and saw themselves in him. if they were younger, the praised elio and supported him, but if they were older they just felt sorry for him. anyway yea some food for thought glad u liked my map xoxo
nice map but i will never understand how this movie about a child being groomed is considered high art. what a weird movie
this is still my favorite map ive ever made