okay actually i like the top diff a lot more than i remember the sliders play kind of like nothing but in a really good way bcz it doesnt disrupt the flow like doing that on this map would be horrendous this doesnt make much sense actually also on azphyx diff 00:58:810 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - FUCK YOU
i um would enjoy having people to talk to and to listen to but i think i ruined that opportunity for myself and im not special or cool enough for ppl to want to talk to me now.
mapping should be a happy thing that we can share with eachother (and whether its "art" or not shouldnt matter) but this happy thing devolves into frustration/isolation when you feel like you are the only person who feels a certain way (when there might very well be other people who do too). its unfortunately easy for this to happen because (it seems) not a lot of ppl are willing to meaningfully engage and attempt to extend their thoughts into language (even if its very hard!) and its exactly because of the urrghhh its just a stupid circle game why are you typing an essay skull emoji mentality. ---- to be clear im not saying that *everybody* should take mapping totally seriously just to give those who do some space.
relating to my own personal experiences as a ₊‧°𐐪newgen𐑂°‧₊ (hehe how can i make this about me 😈) the happiest ive been with mapping was first when i was a baby interacting with the log off now community and second when i became friends with some "late avalon" ppl. And I have to say that these communities get some shit for "spawnkilling" new mappers but they were some of the few places where i felt welcomed to. it feels like some other groups will just be like "this is good/bad!" and this is like fine for anyone inside the circle who already knows everything but if ur a newer mapper it feels like "ermmm u should already know why unless ur stupid" does anyone else feel this way is it just me am i rambling???
anyway in short and in very cliche can we just care a bit more to having a community. is there anyone else who feels a similar sentiment that its been missing? (if u do pls lmk actually so i dont feel like im screaming into the void). also sorry if my typing was very convoluted its cuz i have [UNDIAGNOSED]
i know im very late to the party but there were many things said in this thread and in the original review that resonated with me a lot. Melloe's post in particular hit me hard because it is a struggle I've had for a long time - where my heart is in a different place than my expertise.
It is natural to seek validation from other people about your work. We are social creatures and a large part of the enjoyment of art is being able to share your experiences with other people (think showing a cool map to one of your friends and them feeling a similar way to how you feel). As such it can feel isolating when there are things you value that other people don't seem to. You can start to second guess yourself and force yourself to see what the "right" way of mapping is (like how froslass mentioned raiko/xarr maps being "properly" mapped). And it's okay to map for recognition, but it comes at the cost of doing something outside of where your heart is.
As for my own experience with this I got recognition (though i am still a nobody tbh) from making hsv/very visually focused maps - but the truth is I'm not even *that* fond of these kind of maps (i like them but there are other types of maps I appreciate more). I didn't even want to become this sort of mapper I just happened to be quite good at it, and for a while a rolled with it because having recognition feels nice. But after a while I realized I did not feel fufilled, and that the attention was just.... shallow. So I've really been trying to map what *I* like in maps - In particular trying to capture a specific mood with different movement ideas or making fun iterative gameplay concepts or trying to express the song in my own special or extreme way. But I find trying to do these things to just be so much harder for me. Many a time I'll open the editor with a vision in my head and whatever I place is just... mediocore. But importantly when I was able to finish a map and do what I wanted to do it did feel a lot more rewarding, because I was pushing myself and more importantly I was following my heart. This feeling of finishing a project filled with a lot of passion is a form of joy that is truly special.
The cost of this however is that I've spent all this effort for a map, that is probably lower quality as I am trying to do what I'm not good at, and is going to get 0 recognition and rot away in graveyard. It just.... stings a lot. And I know these are very strong feelings to have about a circle clicking game and I'm aware its probably unhealthy. but that's just what I feel because I am an extremely emotional (moreso neurotic) person. I feel like I view maps as more precious than others may do. it's why I don't rly like to give low ratings on this site. So long as a map isn't obviously in bad faith (mapped for exploiting pp or for attention etc etc) I try my best to see the value in maps. Because they aren't *just maps*, there are people behind them, people who are often trying to make something meaningful or special. Maps are a reflection of who we are in that they are a manifestation of our enjoyments, each decision made with that intent.
Anyway im realising im yapping a lot and gotten off-topic I guess what I'm trying to say is that mapping should be a happy thing, and you should keep making what you enjoy to make because that's how u become truly fulfilled. ty for reading if u made it down here :D
ok looking again (and this might just be personal preference speaking) i think the 2 bigger things that tilted me were 00:55:094 here theres this cool repeating idea 00:55:094 (1) - and then when this part of the song repeats at 02:11:160 its like totally ditched for this circle gimmick and its like okay yes you should totally change things up i mean its the theme of the map but these ideas are like totally unrelated and feel totally different movement wise and also the second time should be more intense (or the same) as the first but the movement there is like super nothing.
This on it's own is more nitpicky bcz maybe the gimmick is to just change on every section regardless but then theres 00:49:848 and 03:00:996 which both the the repeat slider obama scramble thing even though they arent even the same sections in the song? and theyre practically identical at that with the second just being a bit higher sv too.
maybe im too autistic reading into these things but it does just perplex me
ok but i appreciate that it just goes into the action i dont know how ppl play longer maps with like 4 minutes worth of sleep-inducing filler hell FC them without combo break from getting distracted by anything more interesting wait maybe i have adhd
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okay actually i like the top diff a lot more than i remember the sliders play kind of like nothing but in a really good way bcz it doesnt disrupt the flow like doing that on this map would be horrendous this doesnt make much sense actually also on azphyx diff 00:58:810 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - FUCK YOU
00:14:844 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - this is moe
*sigh* i guess ill die then--
i um would enjoy having people to talk to and to listen to but i think i ruined that opportunity for myself and im not special or cool enough for ppl to want to talk to me now.
mapping should be a happy thing that we can share with eachother (and whether its "art" or not shouldnt matter) but this happy thing devolves into frustration/isolation when you feel like you are the only person who feels a certain way (when there might very well be other people who do too). its unfortunately easy for this to happen because (it seems) not a lot of ppl are willing to meaningfully engage and attempt to extend their thoughts into language (even if its very hard!) and its exactly because of the urrghhh its just a stupid circle game why are you typing an essay skull emoji mentality. ---- to be clear im not saying that *everybody* should take mapping totally seriously just to give those who do some space.
relating to my own personal experiences as a ₊‧°𐐪newgen𐑂°‧₊ (hehe how can i make this about me 😈) the happiest ive been with mapping was first when i was a baby interacting with the log off now community and second when i became friends with some "late avalon" ppl. And I have to say that these communities get some shit for "spawnkilling" new mappers but they were some of the few places where i felt welcomed to. it feels like some other groups will just be like "this is good/bad!" and this is like fine for anyone inside the circle who already knows everything but if ur a newer mapper it feels like "ermmm u should already know why unless ur stupid" does anyone else feel this way is it just me am i rambling???
anyway in short and in very cliche can we just care a bit more to having a community. is there anyone else who feels a similar sentiment that its been missing? (if u do pls lmk actually so i dont feel like im screaming into the void). also sorry if my typing was very convoluted its cuz i have [UNDIAGNOSED]
i know im very late to the party but there were many things said in this thread and in the original review that resonated with me a lot. Melloe's post in particular hit me hard because it is a struggle I've had for a long time - where my heart is in a different place than my expertise.
It is natural to seek validation from other people about your work. We are social creatures and a large part of the enjoyment of art is being able to share your experiences with other people (think showing a cool map to one of your friends and them feeling a similar way to how you feel). As such it can feel isolating when there are things you value that other people don't seem to. You can start to second guess yourself and force yourself to see what the "right" way of mapping is (like how froslass mentioned raiko/xarr maps being "properly" mapped). And it's okay to map for recognition, but it comes at the cost of doing something outside of where your heart is.
As for my own experience with this I got recognition (though i am still a nobody tbh) from making hsv/very visually focused maps - but the truth is I'm not even *that* fond of these kind of maps (i like them but there are other types of maps I appreciate more). I didn't even want to become this sort of mapper I just happened to be quite good at it, and for a while a rolled with it because having recognition feels nice. But after a while I realized I did not feel fufilled, and that the attention was just.... shallow. So I've really been trying to map what *I* like in maps - In particular trying to capture a specific mood with different movement ideas or making fun iterative gameplay concepts or trying to express the song in my own special or extreme way. But I find trying to do these things to just be so much harder for me. Many a time I'll open the editor with a vision in my head and whatever I place is just... mediocore. But importantly when I was able to finish a map and do what I wanted to do it did feel a lot more rewarding, because I was pushing myself and more importantly I was following my heart. This feeling of finishing a project filled with a lot of passion is a form of joy that is truly special.
The cost of this however is that I've spent all this effort for a map, that is probably lower quality as I am trying to do what I'm not good at, and is going to get 0 recognition and rot away in graveyard. It just.... stings a lot. And I know these are very strong feelings to have about a circle clicking game and I'm aware its probably unhealthy. but that's just what I feel because I am an extremely emotional (moreso neurotic) person. I feel like I view maps as more precious than others may do. it's why I don't rly like to give low ratings on this site. So long as a map isn't obviously in bad faith (mapped for exploiting pp or for attention etc etc) I try my best to see the value in maps. Because they aren't *just maps*, there are people behind them, people who are often trying to make something meaningful or special. Maps are a reflection of who we are in that they are a manifestation of our enjoyments, each decision made with that intent.
Anyway im realising im yapping a lot and gotten off-topic I guess what I'm trying to say is that mapping should be a happy thing, and you should keep making what you enjoy to make because that's how u become truly fulfilled. ty for reading if u made it down here :D
what were they smoking during top diff
this is like 2.5* but its 5* ykwim
ok looking again (and this might just be personal preference speaking) i think the 2 bigger things that tilted me were 00:55:094 here theres this cool repeating idea 00:55:094 (1) - and then when this part of the song repeats at 02:11:160 its like totally ditched for this circle gimmick and its like okay yes you should totally change things up i mean its the theme of the map but these ideas are like totally unrelated and feel totally different movement wise and also the second time should be more intense (or the same) as the first but the movement there is like super nothing.
This on it's own is more nitpicky bcz maybe the gimmick is to just change on every section regardless but then theres 00:49:848 and 03:00:996 which both the the repeat slider obama scramble thing even though they arent even the same sections in the song? and theyre practically identical at that with the second just being a bit higher sv too.
maybe im too autistic reading into these things but it does just perplex me
This is an OMDBGem
how is this now below Epic Raps Battles of History - Darth Vader vs Adolf Hitler (The Trilogy) what happened
what rule did we even break this is oppression theyre silencing women like me AND frostwich
what is the other half ((((asking out of curiosity please elaborate lots))))
100 points for mapping this song thank you even though i dont like the map sorry
how to rate map 500 stars
it has cool moments i think
02:34:766 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4) - wtf jumpscare
ok but i appreciate that it just goes into the action i dont know how ppl play longer maps with like 4 minutes worth of sleep-inducing filler hell FC them without combo break from getting distracted by anything more interesting wait maybe i have adhd
ts tuff boi
i still cant tell if its fire or not but im leaning towards its fire
idk how to feel abt it
5 stars
top diff is dumb as fuck