Demetori - Higan Kikou ~ View of The River Styx by KomachiBaka

i had a similar reaction to this as i did to heilia's yuumeikyou

Oh cool i didnt think this had intentions of ranking. usually dont rly like this kinda stuff but i very much like the different interpretations and styles shown. Very well mapped and quite fun i think

want to give this a Five cause i love the movement n stuff but 01:40:261 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1) - ETC is so inted LOL, Pretty funny tho tbf

i think more mappers should have fun

even zero is too much for this

extremely UC-coded

there are intermittent bits of "UCness" but overall i heavily disagree

04:40:921 (1) - this deserves a 5 just for the slidertick hs

i looked at 25% of the map in the editor at most so I prob got the UC RNG

nvm it plays likke shit

07:03:504 (3,4) - ?

many cool ideas but ruined by stuff like this

Wears it's inspirations on it's sleeve, some really cool rhythm interpretations. The abrasive patterning is too much for me on first go around, guess we'll see with time if I warm up to it.

Not sure I get UC from this though, definitely seemed moreso in the realm of stuff frakturehawkens creates.

i was also thinking frakturehawkens tbh, i think i just saw 06:47:185 (1,2,3,4,1) - and was transported to kyouhansha

03:17:845 i think the rhythm density buildup with the guitar here is cool but then theres parts like 01:40:756 (4,5,6,7) - where im like dude wtf are we DOING.

i think im also just a little biased bc this style is ruined for me due to how annoying some ppl are when they talk about it

also the nc's make absolutely zero sense

i dont get it

this map is undeniably well-constructed but I personally can't understand why it's appealing or what the mapper was trying to do

Yeah not a fan of sl0 either

brain required
this is one of the truest way of song representation

ok but what if im stupid and i cant understand the map do i just get left out

can we make maps for dumb ppl like me actually that would be cool i like maps where i like the map when i like the map the first time the see the map

well in this particular case we can go play several other really good versions of this song

@espii you rated starseed a 4.5 so I think you must at least have a passing interest in this sort of stuff regardless of how you feel after your first impression

Of course this set doesn’t take such an aggressive approach to distance itself from conventional rhythm structures but the DNA is there.

I’d be more inclined to take interest in stuff like this if ppl didn’t treat it like it’s some transcendental way of mapping that nobody else can even fathom to comprehend but them

im sorry I left my brain home

@Camo wonder who you are talking to - whenever I, personally, discussed this topic I was always opposing having this elitist approach. This is something that was created by the community (aswell as the buzzwords like "emotional mapping" or fucking "renaissance mapping") and that is being used to label me, my friends and other mappers for years while all we did is just made maps.

People prefer assuming stuff based on nothing and never really trying to ask a mapper directly (again, as for me I was always mentioning that I'm open to proper discussions). But I guess it's easier to just have fun in the comments also not forgetting to be mean to a certain mapper. In this thread people assume you must understand some hidden ideas in order to enjoy my map, yeah cool, now guess who these people got this belief from - they imagined it themselves.

@others I've learned myself that there's no sense in trying to outargue many people at once, this is why I'm used to being absent from such discussions and to never taking them to heart. But after witnessing this prejudice for years it really becomes a pity to look at some of the commenters from here or from previous occasions. I'm sorry to break it to you, but you literally imagined some evil entities and decided that you have to fight against them. Just imagine how you look from others' point of view. Hope my words can calm this needless uncontrollable anger of some people in this thread and make their lives a bit easier.

If you love mapping - try discussing it for once instead of discussing social constructs (preferrably somewhere else but not on this truly unusable website).

then i suggest you actually start talking about mapping for once, as you said

everything you have done over the years is the antithesis of what this medium objectively is, using irrelevant third party factors to make yourself and your friends look slightly less pathetic and bring people down who call that isolationist elitist approach out and then you complain it hits you back like a rock

true comedy special for xmas

the maps alright though in some parts

map for me does everything ok but spacing emphasis is legit lackluster, I feel like I'm just watching the same exact spacing being played all the way through in every section, I respects the usage of this weird slider structure

not wanting / not being able to interact with large communities = having an isolationist elitist approach. maxed out assuming

probably not gonna be active here as I said in my last comment, anyone interested in discussing the map / any mapping or community-related topic can feel free to dm me as always

My christmas wish this year is for us to all get along 🥹

judging things based on what others cannot see is your speciality, i judge based on your public outlooks and interactions

projection goes a long way

you arent worthy of being talked to about mapping fatty

dave blunders i cant put down the map

i like it

density management and overall proportions/pacing are done very nicely

also the map has quite a few interesting and risky yet stable slider setups (03:32:350 (2,3) - 02:31:361 (1,2,3,4) - 06:04:987 (3,1) - etc)

my personal problem is that theres a lot of decisions that are either too unstable (sometimes borderline dysfunctional) purely from a mechanical pov, or too bland and safe compared to what is going on around it

@thatotaku 01:40:261 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is like one of my fav things actually lol can we do more improvisations like this

"If you love mapping - try discussing it for once instead of discussing social constructs"

This is not how mapping or any medium for that matter works.

gameplay seems fire idk its just too ugly for me (tho some objects connect fine).

i liked starseed cus the connections are more stable for me and the map just stood out a lot for me personally i cant really tell why. as such its not a rating that im very confident in since i prefer to have some more objective grounding to stand on.

I can appreciate people mapping according to their own personal interpretations but whether other ppl will share those interpretations seems to be rng as fuck so i feel like i have to place less value into those kinda maps

anyway did u guys have a nice christmas (or just a nice day if u dont celebrate :p)

yeah it was nice

yes and also

"I’d be more inclined to take interest in stuff like this if ppl didn’t treat it like it’s some transcendental way of mapping that nobody else can even fathom to comprehend but them"

just lol

yes i had a good christmas my brother and i did shooters together at the conservative family function

this song is rly good bro wtf?

😭☀😭😭

i won't talk about the map but hitsounds are pretty awful, abundance of snares in multiple parts (where they're used on pretty much every click) sounds so fucking obnoxious - especially since the sample is one of the loudest ones around

i dont hate it, but it feels like it tries too hard to be special, chaotic for the sake of chaos. weird streams/alts always fun though.

it is great indeed that we have another new reason and occasion to gather together, talk to each other and have a discussion! Thanks to komachibaka, fllecc and Gorou for such an opportunity :)

respect

04:50:152 (2) - where is this from

took a few plays but this kinda grew on me a lot

genuinely awesome in a lot of ways but i agree that the hitsounds are very inconsistent, and not in an artful way

its an ok map

anyone rating above a 0 is trolling btw

mayba 0.5 for some of the individual patterns.

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this is more or less trolling tbf

u dont have to justify your opinion by saying other ones are impossible its ok <3 u can just think things!

how did dead internet theory make it onto omdb ?

meine Nacktfotos im profil

Map feels fine, i like some of the ideas and execution is like 50/50 to me. I respect the attempt tho. Not my cup of tea style wise but its not a reason to dislike it.

07:29:712 (1) - this slider looks like it would be called kiki instead of bouba

this map is more kiki than bouba in generals

actually i get it

this one is criminally overhated, prob my favorite from the year

Kinda grew on me ngl

it got even better within years

i warmed up to this a lot

Woke as fuck!!!

My views on the map haven’t changed but I actually find the opposite feeling where the first impression felt a lot more impactful

not the worst map of all time

Elaboration: I think this is the most quintessential komachi map (not my favorite) even considering the intricacies of his memorial maps but rn i kind of treat this map as smth i just play and have fun on

golden

yeah i used to be a hater I’ll admit but I’ve come around quite a bit

beautiful

i respect the attempt at mapping a demetori song against the status quo but i feel as if the map didn't show me anything interesting or new about mapping songs like these.