but then why is this specific style disrespectful, what makes it so? low effort or what is the deciding factor? I think grid maps take less effort than this style to make, so if that is true then are grid maps also disrespectful? sorry if I sound condescending but I still don't get the argument, or rather I don't think slop is bad to the point of being actively disrespectful to the song (no style is because I don't see the connection here)
I guess if a map was made without any care at all then it would make sense to me but can you really know the amount of effort anyone put into any map? I think that would be an unfair assumption
also I don't really buy the piracy argument lol so making this on fa songs would be fine or what (I don't think any artist is going to DMCA specifically because of a map they disliked if that was the point somehow, and if it happened and I just didn't know I'd be extremely surprised lol)
from my experience the more comfortable the jumps the easier they are to hit but then this might be uncomfortable to me but comfortable to someone else
also I am surprised that the meaning of the song matters that much to you guys as if making a slop map was an insult to it or something; it allows for it better than all the other megasets (at least they didn't have to speed this one up!)
mindless self serving gameplay is pretty fair but realistically why does it matter? I'm curious no negative connotation here I just don't get it
you are right and this is what I also think but worded better, and I don't expect anyone to have any opinion, I only said that this sort of analysis is funny to me as I don't take this as seriously as some people do and if that is offensive to you then so be it; I still stand by that and it will never be this serious for me personally so yea
Omggg I didn't mean to say that this specific map is like that I just felt like sharing that thought I had
>often time mappers are just placing something because it feels cool in some vague/nebulous way and thats still expressing intent (intuition is a powerful tool)
this is what I meant by subconsciousness in my original comment and I don't think it's a bad thing or anything it's just not everyone (in fact I think the overwhelming minority) actually thinks about like every single thing in their maps and they have actual reasoning behind it that's all - in short ppl just place shit more often than not (even today but more so back then, that was my point) imo and that's what I was going at - the analysis is an absolutely fair thing to do if u enjoy the map a lot obviously
Idk how to talk abt this if anyone wants to engage in this converstaion more just dm me it's so much easier talking face to face than typing in this 100px textbox where u can't see more tahn 3 lines of text and I cba to do this in notepad or something
How can this even be comfortable to play for ppl or is it not and is everyone who likes this lying to themselves it is so fking crazy to me how unplayable this is lol
ok yea I thought it wouldn't be too bad as usual with slop but this is literally horrible and this cover might be the absolute worst thing I ever heard I'd rather listen to nanahira for 20hrs than go through this once I think
Well fair enough I didn't really mean to say that this map is Accidentally good it's more just I've seen this sort of deep analysis done on so many old maps that there have to be at least a couple that were completely fully vibe mapped and then 15 yrs later they're suddenly PEAK so I felt like giving my own 2 cents on the topic in general
I disagree; this map is iconic for the sole reason that it was very very difficult in like 1993 not because it has an identity or whatever (it clearly does though)
I don't mean to like undermine your point or anything it's just extremely funny to me when ppl overanalyze old maps on here and make up theories when (IMO!) most of those old maps were just some fuckin chinese guy having fun placing geometric shapes in the editor and their "amazing ahead of their time mapping" came from subsonsciousness or accidentally instead of actual thought
I would like to be more serious abt maps I like here but whenever I post a serious comment I'm the only comment and the map has like 3 ratings ... It is what melter described but even worse because the hallucinations are stuck in my head only and I am developing advanced schizophrenia because of it Anyways maybe more ppl can escape the chinese mapping virus 1 day and we can have more varied conversations under Fuckign random maps but until then No serious discourse for me
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but then why is this specific style disrespectful, what makes it so? low effort or what is the deciding factor? I think grid maps take less effort than this style to make, so if that is true then are grid maps also disrespectful? sorry if I sound condescending but I still don't get the argument, or rather I don't think slop is bad to the point of being actively disrespectful to the song (no style is because I don't see the connection here)
I guess if a map was made without any care at all then it would make sense to me but can you really know the amount of effort anyone put into any map? I think that would be an unfair assumption
also I don't really buy the piracy argument lol so making this on fa songs would be fine or what (I don't think any artist is going to DMCA specifically because of a map they disliked if that was the point somehow, and if it happened and I just didn't know I'd be extremely surprised lol)
from my experience the more comfortable the jumps the easier they are to hit but then this might be uncomfortable to me but comfortable to someone else
also I am surprised that the meaning of the song matters that much to you guys as if making a slop map was an insult to it or something; it allows for it better than all the other megasets (at least they didn't have to speed this one up!)
mindless self serving gameplay is pretty fair but realistically why does it matter? I'm curious no negative connotation here I just don't get it
you are right and this is what I also think but worded better, and I don't expect anyone to have any opinion, I only said that this sort of analysis is funny to me as I don't take this as seriously as some people do and if that is offensive to you then so be it; I still stand by that and it will never be this serious for me personally so yea
Also this isn't even old it's 2013 so mapping has existed for like 2 yrs already because this is what started it /s/39017
Omggg I didn't mean to say that this specific map is like that I just felt like sharing that thought I had
>often time mappers are just placing something because it feels cool in some vague/nebulous way and thats still expressing intent (intuition is a powerful tool)
this is what I meant by subconsciousness in my original comment and I don't think it's a bad thing or anything it's just not everyone (in fact I think the overwhelming minority) actually thinks about like every single thing in their maps and they have actual reasoning behind it that's all - in short ppl just place shit more often than not (even today but more so back then, that was my point) imo and that's what I was going at - the analysis is an absolutely fair thing to do if u enjoy the map a lot obviously
Idk how to talk abt this if anyone wants to engage in this converstaion more just dm me it's so much easier talking face to face than typing in this 100px textbox where u can't see more tahn 3 lines of text and I cba to do this in notepad or something
pretty creative actually I like it
How can this even be comfortable to play for ppl or is it not and is everyone who likes this lying to themselves it is so fking crazy to me how unplayable this is lol
ok yea I thought it wouldn't be too bad as usual with slop but this is literally horrible and this cover might be the absolute worst thing I ever heard I'd rather listen to nanahira for 20hrs than go through this once I think
Well fair enough I didn't really mean to say that this map is Accidentally good it's more just I've seen this sort of deep analysis done on so many old maps that there have to be at least a couple that were completely fully vibe mapped and then 15 yrs later they're suddenly PEAK so I felt like giving my own 2 cents on the topic in general
I disagree; this map is iconic for the sole reason that it was very very difficult in like 1993 not because it has an identity or whatever (it clearly does though)
I don't mean to like undermine your point or anything it's just extremely funny to me when ppl overanalyze old maps on here and make up theories when (IMO!) most of those old maps were just some fuckin chinese guy having fun placing geometric shapes in the editor and their "amazing ahead of their time mapping" came from subsonsciousness or accidentally instead of actual thought
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So nice when actual music is mapped and then you can also play it until the 400 million note stream but it's still good
Nah not worth looking at
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I would like to be more serious abt maps I like here but whenever I post a serious comment I'm the only comment and the map has like 3 ratings ... It is what melter described but even worse because the hallucinations are stuck in my head only and I am developing advanced schizophrenia because of it Anyways maybe more ppl can escape the chinese mapping virus 1 day and we can have more varied conversations under Fuckign random maps but until then No serious discourse for me
Please don't say that Can I help
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So fucking idiotic I love it and hp7 as a cherry on top
The song is rly shit by the way but I hate kpop so whatever It sounds like something made by a 3year old
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Top diff is so nice man the other diff doesn't have IT
also the ending literally plays itself it's so well made literally perfect gameplay Only rly wish it had the bursts as well because tapping is fun
Nice discussion about nothing
This song goes so fking hard